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Dear Ministry of Defence,
1. Can the Department confirm its plans for the use of Hawk Tmk1 in the Air Support Role out until the end of FY27/28? This specifically requests clarity be given wrt the following areas: 736 Naval Air Squadron (NAS), 100 Squadron (Sqn) and The Red Arrows. Key questions are as follows:
a. Clarify its position wrt any decision to extend 736 NAS operating the Hawk Tmk1 in the Air Support Role for an additional 18 months (iro November 2021). Please comment on TUPE considerations relating to contractor staff (Babcock), and FTRS aircrew. Please provide details of any IAC submission placed, including option submitted, in late 2018 along with the findings, recommendations and decisions.
b. What effect, if any, would an extension of 736 NAS have on the Forward Available Fleet (FAF) for 100 Sqn from April 2020, and what risk to the FAF in FY26/27 due to the depth fleet capacity to support requirements? Response to include the planned depth phase flow by aircraft serial numbers, intended use across the Hawk Tmk1 community and numbers of aircraft at unit level out until the end of FY26/27.
c. What is the latest position on the current HIOS contract with BAE Systems wrt Hawk Tmk1 support? Please provide aircraft serial numbers, planned maintenance phase flows, airframe hours of ALL remaining aircraft by serial number, and projected end of fatigue life for each airframe.
d. What is the status of the HIOS contract for the period April 2020 onwards? Please provide all non-commercial in confidence details.
e. What is the current disposition of the Hawk Tmk1 fleet numbers, maintenance phase flows, airframe hours of ALL remaining aircraft by serial number, and projected end of fatigue life for each airframe.
f. What is the funded Annual Flying Task (AFT) position for Hawk Tmk1 for 736 NAS, 100 Sqn and The Red Arrows each year out until the end of FY26/27 or disbandment, if earlier.
g. What is the breakdown of AFT allocated against each Hawk Tmk1 user in sub-para f? For example, out of 4,200hrs on 100 Sqn, how much is for: Close Air Support (CAS), Air-to-Air Adversary Training, Refresher Training/Conversion, Crew Continuation Training, Air Exercise Programme and Defence Engagement? For 736 NAS this could include Maritime Trials, Adversary and Fighter Control Training.
2. Please direct as required through sS staffs, ensuring as a minimum the following areas act as respondents:
Add thai language windows xp. Navy Comd – DACOS Av Staff
HQ Air – A7 Staff
HQ Air – 1Gp Hawk
DE&S – Hawk Fleet Manager
DE&S – Hawk In-service Delivery Manager
Yours faithfully,
Robert Toland
Dear Mr Toland,
Thank you for your e-mail of 10 January 2019 asking for information about
the Hawk T1.
It has been logged as an FOI request under reference 2019/00451.
The target date for response is 7 February 2019.
Paul Webb
Air-DRes Sec 3a1
Air Command Secretariat
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HQ Air Command
RAF High Wycombe
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20190130 FOI Response R Toland Hawk T1 451.pdf
Dear Mr Toland,
Please find attached the response to your FOI request of 10 January 2019.
Paul Webb
Air-DRes Sec 3a1
Air Command Secretariat
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HQ Air Command
RAF High Wycombe
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Dear Air-DRes Sec-ParliBusiness (MULTIUSER),
Either the Air TLB does not know the answers or, perhaps what's more plausible, is that it does not wish to answer the questions asked. It is very like that if it were to answer the questions it would likely expose a potential fast jet capability gap from April 2020 with regards support to Flag Officer Sea Training and other RN capabilities; notably Fighter Control Training and Operational Assurance/Trials. This would be in addition to the capability gap from January 2020 when the current EW contract provision expires that may last from 6-24 months.
I should imagine that when added to the recent admission that Hawk Tmk1 will be required to re-start AJT further reducing the AFT available for adversary training by roughly 600-650 hrs per year across the fleet, Air is trying to suppress a situation that is potentially damaging, embarrassing, and is totally avoidable. Especially when the average time in the flying training system is 7 years for those streamed fast jet, 5 years for rotary, and 4 for multi-engine.
However, i shall take your advice as stated, and will resubmit as 7 separate submissions.
Yours sincerely,
Robert Toland
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| Date | Incident | Details | Notes |
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| 26 March 1969 (1969-03-26) | A Gnat hit trees while joining formation during a practice at RAF Kemble | one fatality. | |
| 16 December 1969 (1969-12-16) | Two Gnats crashed, one at Kemble and the other in a field new Chelworth | The pilots both ejected safely although a fire warning from air traffic was intended for only one of the aircraft. | |
| 1969 (1969) | A Gnat crashed short of the RAF Fairford runway. | ||
| 20 January 1971 (1971-01-20) | Two Gnats collided during the cross-over manoeuvre | four fatalities | |
| 17 May 1980 (1980-05-17) | A Hawk hit a yacht mast at an air show in Brighton, Sussex | The pilotejected safely. | |
| 24 March 1984 (1984-03-24) | A Hawk hit the ground at RAF Akrotiri, Cyprus, while practising a loop. | The pilot was ejected from the plane by the force of the impact and suffered serious injuries. | |
| 1986 (1986) | A Hawk rammed into the back of another on a runway. | ||
| 1987 (1987) | A Hawk crashed into a house in the neighbouring village of Welton, Lincolnshire while practising. | Nobody was killed and both pilots ejected safely. | |
| 24 June 1988 (1988-06-24) | A Hawk crashed whilst attempting to take off, and the fuel tanks exploded. | The pilot ejected safely. | |
| 1988 (1988) | Flt Lt Neil MacLachlan died practising a 'roll back' at RAF Scampton. | ||
| 17 October 1998 (1998-10-17) | Flt Lt R. Edwards landed short of the runway after a practice run at the Red Arrows then home base, RAF Cranwell, and ejected safely at low altitude. | ||
| 9 September 2003 (2003-09-09) | A Hawk overshot the runway while landing at Jersey Airport in advance of an air display. | The pilot ran the jet into a gravel pile and little damage was sustained. | |
| 2007 (2007) | The wingtip of a Hawk hit the tail of another during a practice flight near RAF Scampton. | ||
| 23 March 2010 (2010-03-23) | Two Hawks were involved in a mid-air collision. | The synchro pair were practising one of their manoeuvres when the two aircraft collided. One pilot landed his plane safely, but the other (Flt Lt Mike Ling) ejected and suffered a dislocated shoulder. The incident took place during pre-season training in Crete. | |
| 20 August 2011 (2011-08-20) | A Hawk crashed near Bournemouth Airport following a display at the Bournemouth Air Festival. | Flt Lt Jon Egging, pilot of Red 4, died in the accident. An investigation into the incident is currently under way. | |
| 8 November 2011 (2011-11-08) | Pilot Flt Lt Sean Cunningham, was ejected from his aircraft while it was on the ground at RAF Scampton and subsequently died from his injuries. | An investigation into the incident began shortly afterwards. |